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Post by POE on Nov 20, 2015 9:24:56 GMT -6
Looking for an extra set of black wheels. I want one set for on-road and one for off-road.
Any leads would be appreciated. If the rims are not black, I have a connection that can get me free satin black powder coating, I just need to find a way to sand blast them first is all.
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Post by bigswede on Nov 20, 2015 9:42:06 GMT -6
16" or 17"?
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Post by POE on Nov 20, 2015 9:51:12 GMT -6
I was thinking 16" but I don't know the difference in performance. I want low rotational mass and cheap tires. So whichever size works best for that. I'm assuming 16" hits both those best. The only reason I can see for 17" is aesthetics.
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Post by bigswede on Nov 20, 2015 11:21:53 GMT -6
16" is better for wheeling because of the taller sidewalls, which conversely makes the 17" corner slightly better...and yes I think 16" tires are generally cheaper than 17" for some reason.
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Post by POE on Feb 18, 2016 14:40:50 GMT -6
Anyone know what the deal is with NTB's sale of "Buy 2 Get 2 Free"? I know you have to buy protection plans for all the tires, but I'd imagine that's still cheaper than the cost of the free two tires.
I'm looking at Cooper Discoverer RTX tires. Anyone hear good/bad/otherwise about them? They are cheaper, but I can't really afford the new rims and BFG A/T's that I would really like. The RTX's seem like a decent option to save some money.
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Post by bigswede on Feb 18, 2016 21:20:22 GMT -6
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Post by POE on Feb 19, 2016 10:31:34 GMT -6
The NTB deal was bullshit. They charge over $350 for their packaged protection deal and it's simply not worth it. I was thinking about ordering my own tires on Amazon, but I would need to find someone that could mount and balance for me. What do you guys think about tire size? I'll be going to Moab in April (hopefully!) and I want to have a decent all-terrain tire, but I'm not sure I need to spend $200/each on from BFGs. Should I stick to 265's? Go up to 275 or 285's? I have stock 17" rims... I'll be checking in with Discount tire next week to see what they could do for me on buying 5 tires. Not looking forward to this expense  |
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Post by bigswede on Feb 19, 2016 17:43:25 GMT -6
I had Discount mount and balance my tires.
Bigger tires offer some advantages off road, but you lose some power proportionally to the change in size, plus they are heavier.
Moab is the one place where you don't really need new tires, that sandstone is incredibly grippy even on bald street tires.
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Post by POE on Feb 20, 2016 11:09:34 GMT -6
Good to know! Thanks Steve!
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Post by Tstormin (AKA Bill) on Feb 23, 2016 6:35:41 GMT -6
I have had great luck with Discount tire, and LOVE my Cooper ATP's. 285/75/17's
$20 a tire for tire protection (And its NOT pro-rated) meaning, if the tire has a 60k warranty, and you blow a side wall at 59k, the tire is replaced for free (Although, you will need to purchase warranty on the new tire)
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Post by POE on Feb 23, 2016 8:20:00 GMT -6
So, my FJ use will be mainly Daily Driving. But I want to do some local off-roading and an occasional trip out west. Should I stick with 265's?? Does it make a big difference to go to 285's?? Should I split the difference and find some 275's??
Also, where should I go around here for some good trails or off-road camping? I need to find somewhere decently close to let the FJ stretch her legs on occasion.
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Post by Tstormin (AKA Bill) on Feb 23, 2016 11:39:21 GMT -6
I will tell you, with the 285's my mileage did drop (by 3-4 MPG)
Unless you REALLY want the height, I would stick with 265's.
I had 265's on my last FJ (2012) and was very happy with them.
As for "AROUND" here. There really isnt anything real close.
"Gilbert, Minnesota at the Iron Range Off-Highway Vehicle Recreation Area, the state’s first public off-road park. The park consists of tight winding trails, large hill climbs, and difficult rock crawling gorges."
About 3 hours north of the cities. Otherwise, Firetrails up north...
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Post by bigswede on Feb 24, 2016 9:02:29 GMT -6
Also, where should I go around here for some good trails or off-road camping? I need to find somewhere decently close to let the FJ stretch her legs on occasion. You should check out the Midwest Overland Society. We have weekend and longer "off-road camping" trips. It's an informal group - guys just plan trips and whoever wants to join in goes along. Usually a mix of MN weekend trips and longer weeklong trips further afield. I went with a group to Wyoming last August. The Spider Lake trails in the Foothills State Forest up by Hackensack www.dnr.state.mn.us/ohv/trail_detail.html?id=27 are the closest "off road" trails. No rocks, a little mud, but mostly tight little trails winding though the woods. Gilbert has much more variety but is further away. You are supposed to have a state OHV sticker on your license plate to use these trails. That sticker is also needed for the IROHVRA (Gilbert) www.dnr.state.mn.us/ohv/trail_detail.html?id=13 as well. |
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Post by POE on Feb 24, 2016 9:18:56 GMT -6
Thanks again, Steve. I just registered at MOS. I'll have to keep an eye on their events. From your info, I'm leaning towards sticking with 265's for now. I'll still buy a decent set of A/T tires though. Just have to decide on which ones. Not sure I want to spend the extra money BFG KO2's when there are other decent tires for much less. It's so disappointing that there aren't any areas to off-road near by. Oh well, I'll just have to find some more areas to blaze my own trail. I've found a couple small areas to have fun in. I even have crappy summer street tires that came with this Texas truck and the FJ seems to use them with relative ease going through some snowy areas.
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Post by Tstormin (AKA Bill) on Feb 24, 2016 10:00:56 GMT -6
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Post by POE on Feb 24, 2016 10:21:13 GMT -6
I have stock 17" rims, and because of finances, will likely stay with them for now. Probably just PlastiDip them black.
Cooper had a Discoverer RTX that was about $110/tire that looked really nice too, but I don't see it on the Cooper website.
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Post by bigswede on Feb 24, 2016 10:47:09 GMT -6
My next set might be the Cooper Discoverer S/T Maxx.
BTW there are private events closer by, in places like River Falls, Dresser, Frontenac. You can usually camp there too, but it is just playing around in a limited area, not point-to-point traveling. Might be a good way to get familiar with your rig though. The MN4WDA has a calendar of events.
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Post by POE on Feb 24, 2016 12:12:34 GMT -6
Those S/T Maxx's look bad ass. I'm still kind of young and poor or those tires would be on my radar, too.
When I get some free time I need to compile a list of potential tires and compare the pros/cons.
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Post by bigswede on Feb 24, 2016 13:11:36 GMT -6
If you are going to go off road, especially around here, an LT-rated tire is a good idea for the extra plies and puncture resistance. There will be a weight penalty for this though of ~15 lbs. per tire. Doesn't sound like a lot but rotational mass matters even more than general weight. Load range C is plenty IMO for the FJC, but you will find many of these tires come in E-range these days, making them a bit heavier than I would like.
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Post by POE on Feb 24, 2016 13:38:27 GMT -6
Very good info! I was curious about load ratings!
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